After publishing my proposal for how WordPress block HTML and CSS could be improved for the betterment of the entire WordPress ecosystem, I was very excited to get invited onto the WP Tavern Jukebox podcast to discuss the subject. This followed a response of sorts to the post on the WP Tavern blog.

Episode 28, “Mark Root-Wiley on Creating Standards for CSS in WordPress”, was just released! I had a great chat with the host Nathan, and we talked about all sorts of things including:

• The history of WordPress visitor-facing CSS and HTML
• The changes brought by the block editor
• The value in agreeing to some basic naming conventions for CSS classes and “design tokens”
• Top-down decision making vs. developing community consensus

It was a great wide-ranging discussion, and I encourage you to take a listen here or in your podcast listener of choice. (Pardon the weird player display. I’m not sure what’s going on, but I’m not going to spend the time fixing it right now since it works just fine.)

Transcript available on the show page below the “Useful links” section.